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		<title>By: Julie</title>
		<link>http://www.angelenic.com/353/downtown-los-angeless-new-gayborhood/comment-page-1/#comment-30541</link>
		<dc:creator>Julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 18:56:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Downtown is significantly more queer friendly (yes..I&#039;m a lesbian), than I ever imagined. I recently moved into one of the historic core lofts, and am completely overjoyed with the fact that my girlfriend and I can roam around hand in hand without getting rude comments, or feeling unsafe. It&#039;s a good neighborhood vibe we&#039;ve got going on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Downtown is significantly more queer friendly (yes..I&#8217;m a lesbian), than I ever imagined. I recently moved into one of the historic core lofts, and am completely overjoyed with the fact that my girlfriend and I can roam around hand in hand without getting rude comments, or feeling unsafe. It&#8217;s a good neighborhood vibe we&#8217;ve got going&nbsp;on.</p>
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		<title>By: Marisyl</title>
		<link>http://www.angelenic.com/353/downtown-los-angeless-new-gayborhood/comment-page-1/#comment-22915</link>
		<dc:creator>Marisyl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 14:58:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am visiting LA for the first time this week.  I am from NYC and a friend told me transportation is nothing like NY, I am very worried how I am going to get arround.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am visiting LA for the first time this week.  I am from NYC and a friend told me transportation is nothing like NY, I am very worried how I am going to get&nbsp;arround.</p>
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		<title>By: Christian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 13:25:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Honestly, I could see how in recent years DTLA has undergone a change. I couldn&#039;t be any happier with it! It makes me happy to read how everyone is so enthusiased by what DTLA is: A city evolving into a fountain of diverse and bright activities and people. I&#039;ve ad many dates with my boyfriend in DTLA and they&#039;ve all been great! Our memories of DTLA are what brought us back together...and I&#039;m glad we can walk the streets in the day holding hands, hanging out at Pershing Square or walking to Angel&#039;s Flight to sit at the park and visiting the garden at the Music Hall and having a private moment. DTLA is growing more and more addicting and, at the risk of sounding like a PSA, I couldn&#039;t be any prouder to have it as my anti-drug.  :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Honestly, I could see how in recent years DTLA has undergone a change. I couldn&#8217;t be any happier with it! It makes me happy to read how everyone is so enthusiased by what DTLA is: A city evolving into a fountain of diverse and bright activities and people. I&#8217;ve ad many dates with my boyfriend in DTLA and they&#8217;ve all been great! Our memories of DTLA are what brought us back together&#8230;and I&#8217;m glad we can walk the streets in the day holding hands, hanging out at Pershing Square or walking to Angel&#8217;s Flight to sit at the park and visiting the garden at the Music Hall and having a private moment. DTLA is growing more and more addicting and, at the risk of sounding like a PSA, I couldn&#8217;t be any prouder to have it as my anti-drug.  <img src='http://www.angelenic.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: unico</title>
		<link>http://www.angelenic.com/353/downtown-los-angeless-new-gayborhood/comment-page-1/#comment-5866</link>
		<dc:creator>unico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 09:36:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>another hombre fucking hombre here and i been doing everything in downtown for ages.  from the alleys to j-town to the alexandria and of course to score.  

while i hate some of the new stuff of downtown.  like all the yuppy hipster or whatever the fuck they are, i cant help but look past them like i did when in frisco. 

DT just has so much.  
the loss of score bar was big.  that was the oldest gay bar in LA!!!  now its a place packed with a bunch of frat party kids.  its horrible, but luckily i still got jaliscos.  

and who says i gotta go to a gay place.  
i love the FIG and the newer places like broadway bar or GG.

but everyone please dont get $hit twisted the gays have been in DT since forever.  la broadway was were all the queens got there gowns.  you could not throw a stick with out hitting some queen.  
and now a lot of the young gay urban kids hang out in pershing like they did in the past.  
lastly, i been sayin that if some promoter or bar owner was smart they would invest in DT and give the gays something in downtown, and not mustache mondays.  
some have tried gay nights at the mayan or other places but now that DT is coming back to life it would be perfect and ripe for the picking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>another hombre fucking hombre here and i been doing everything in downtown for ages.  from the alleys to j-town to the alexandria and of course to&nbsp;score.  </p>
<p>while i hate some of the new stuff of downtown.  like all the yuppy hipster or whatever the fuck they are, i cant help but look past them like i did when in&nbsp;frisco. </p>
<p>DT just has so much.<br />
the loss of score bar was big.  that was the oldest gay bar in LA!!!  now its a place packed with a bunch of frat party kids.  its horrible, but luckily i still got&nbsp;jaliscos.  </p>
<p>and who says i gotta go to a gay place.<br />
i love the FIG and the newer places like broadway bar or&nbsp;GG.</p>
<p>but everyone please dont get $hit twisted the gays have been in DT since forever.  la broadway was were all the queens got there gowns.  you could not throw a stick with out hitting some queen.<br />
and now a lot of the young gay urban kids hang out in pershing like they did in the past.<br />
lastly, i been sayin that if some promoter or bar owner was smart they would invest in DT and give the gays something in downtown, and not mustache mondays.<br />
some have tried gay nights at the mayan or other places but now that DT is coming back to life it would be perfect and ripe for the&nbsp;picking.</p>
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		<title>By: HR</title>
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		<dc:creator>HR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 22:16:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow I didn&#039;t know there was such a community here in Downtown! I live over in Chinatown near Figueroa and Sunset.  If anyone wants to make a new friend, email me, i&#039;d love to make new friends in this awesome city. :) 
Trojan boy7 at yahoo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow I didn&#8217;t know there was such a community here in Downtown! I live over in Chinatown near Figueroa and Sunset.  If anyone wants to make a new friend, email me, i&#8217;d love to make new friends in this awesome city. <img src='http://www.angelenic.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Trojan boy7 at&nbsp;yahoo</p>
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		<title>By: BusTard</title>
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		<dc:creator>BusTard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 04:23:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carlos, I appreciate your enthusiasm, but it is the vicarious living, especially the seemingly perpetual reference to actors that has always put me off. It is one thing to appreciate another person&#039;s art, and yet I find that too often the idolisation of people in popular media is confused with such an appreciation. the cult of personality is a bit of behaviour I have never favoured.
Having seen what happened to Lower East Side, the Bowery, Times Square and downtown Atlanta as well as what is happening to Coney Island, Brooklyn and Philadelphia is what prompts me to state that what is happening to downtown Los Angeles will be worse owing to the want to be somebody and something else, rather than oneself. 

While I am aware of a load of great little places that retain the flavour of olde Los Angeles, I am also aware they are so cottage and boutique that the tsunami of gentrification sweeping the relatively small plot that is downtown Los Angeles is sure to consume them. I walk these streets almost daily, primarily those areas that no one who blogs can name and am watching the LAPD, the street services, the patterns of city behaviour that are indicative of what is to come and what has long been planned.

The bohemian environment that is so keen at present will only make way for its own destruction, by way of making the downtown streets safe for the multinational corporate interests to move in and take over. It is an inevitable pattern. The events surrounding the imbroglio regarding Pharmika nearly being evicted and M.J. Higgens former spot being the new one for a LAPD motor pool are proof positive of the negative. there is more in the works too; these developments do not happen overnight. 

The truly big developers have their collective eye on the Arts, Olde Bank and Skid Row districts. I was along on two downtown poet-art walks (back in late 2006) that had Ed Rosenthal and Tom Gilmore participating, and they are well aware of what is possible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carlos, I appreciate your enthusiasm, but it is the vicarious living, especially the seemingly perpetual reference to actors that has always put me off. It is one thing to appreciate another person&#8217;s art, and yet I find that too often the idolisation of people in popular media is confused with such an appreciation. the cult of personality is a bit of behaviour I have never favoured.<br />
Having seen what happened to Lower East Side, the Bowery, Times Square and downtown Atlanta as well as what is happening to Coney Island, Brooklyn and Philadelphia is what prompts me to state that what is happening to downtown Los Angeles will be worse owing to the want to be somebody and something else, rather than&nbsp;oneself. </p>
<p>While I am aware of a load of great little places that retain the flavour of olde Los Angeles, I am also aware they are so cottage and boutique that the tsunami of gentrification sweeping the relatively small plot that is downtown Los Angeles is sure to consume them. I walk these streets almost daily, primarily those areas that no one who blogs can name and am watching the LAPD, the street services, the patterns of city behaviour that are indicative of what is to come and what has long been&nbsp;planned.</p>
<p>The bohemian environment that is so keen at present will only make way for its own destruction, by way of making the downtown streets safe for the multinational corporate interests to move in and take over. It is an inevitable pattern. The events surrounding the imbroglio regarding Pharmika nearly being evicted and M.J. Higgens former spot being the new one for a LAPD motor pool are proof positive of the negative. there is more in the works too; these developments do not happen&nbsp;overnight. </p>
<p>The truly big developers have their collective eye on the Arts, Olde Bank and Skid Row districts. I was along on two downtown poet-art walks (back in late 2006) that had Ed Rosenthal and Tom Gilmore participating, and they are well aware of what is&nbsp;possible.</p>
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		<title>By: Narinda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Narinda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 23:14:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That was a great post about it LA-- articulated perfectly the feeling here, that nothing really matters other than &lt;b&gt;what you do&lt;/b&gt;. So do things. 

Like walk around the gayborhood.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was a great post about it LA&#8212; articulated perfectly the feeling here, that nothing really matters other than <b>what you do</b>. So do&nbsp;things. </p>
<p>Like walk around the&nbsp;gayborhood.</p>
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		<title>By: Shannon Pucci</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shannon Pucci</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 21:47:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Darn, I think I like BusTard better because he is hardcore, esp. his use of the word &quot;schmuck&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Darn, I think I like BusTard better because he is hardcore, esp. his use of the word&nbsp;&#8220;schmuck&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 20:48:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>here is &lt;a href=&quot;http://bldgblog.blogspot.com/2007/10/greater-los-angeles.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the original post on bldgblog&lt;/a&gt; where carlos got that &quot;poem&quot; from.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>here is <a href="http://bldgblog.blogspot.com/2007/10/greater-los-angeles.html" rel="nofollow">the original post on bldgblog</a> where carlos got that &#8220;poem&#8221;&nbsp;from.</p>
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		<title>By: Roy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 20:36:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That was amazing. Thanks for posting that Carlos.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was amazing. Thanks for posting that&nbsp;Carlos.</p>
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