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	<title>Comments on: orsini iii approved by cra, retail conditions imposed</title>
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	<description>Downtown Los Angeles Blog: Restaurants, Retail, Culture, Events, Lofts, News.  Rich Alossi, Author</description>
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		<title>By: PL</title>
		<link>http://www.angelenic.com/439/orsini-iii-approved-by-cra-retail-conditions-imposed/comment-page-1/#comment-35068</link>
		<dc:creator>PL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 16:23:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I AM  100%  AGREE GREG!   THE ORSINI  1 &amp; 2 IS HELL!!!! BIG HOLE</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I AM  100%  AGREE GREG!   THE ORSINI  1 &amp; 2 IS HELL!!!! BIG&nbsp;HOLE</p>
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		<title>By: greg</title>
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		<dc:creator>greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 06:05:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. palmer is an asshole,, he has always been, trust me,, ive lived in his properties before, EVERYYYYYYYYYYYTHING is made up of low cost materials, his elevators break down 5 times a day, his electricity is neveerrrrrr wired correctly, just like the plumbing. in all honestly it looks amazing from the outside, but horrible in the inside, i dont even want to start talking about the management company he uses, HORIBLE!! thas why every other month he hired new management companies, why??? cus he cant afford or doesnt care to spend good money on a company that can handle such large of a complex. i have lived at the orsini for 2 years , lovely place, nice gardens, but sucks for its price..  his security systems also, suck, there has been freakin 22 burglaries in the building , and NONE have been cought on tape, WHY???? cus the camera system is analog and does NOT record... my rent is 2400. a month , and now i feel like its bullshit and not worth it,, do NOT get tricked into calling orsini, medicci, visconte, or even peiro your home, it will be hell for you in no time.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. palmer is an asshole,, he has always been, trust me,, ive lived in his properties before, EVERYYYYYYYYYYYTHING is made up of low cost materials, his elevators break down 5 times a day, his electricity is neveerrrrrr wired correctly, just like the plumbing. in all honestly it looks amazing from the outside, but horrible in the inside, i dont even want to start talking about the management company he uses, HORIBLE!! thas why every other month he hired new management companies, why??? cus he cant afford or doesnt care to spend good money on a company that can handle such large of a complex. i have lived at the orsini for 2 years , lovely place, nice gardens, but sucks for its price..  his security systems also, suck, there has been freakin 22 burglaries in the building , and NONE have been cought on tape, WHY???? cus the camera system is analog and does NOT record&#8230; my rent is 2400. a month , and now i feel like its bullshit and not worth it,, do NOT get tricked into calling orsini, medicci, visconte, or even peiro your home, it will be hell for you in no&nbsp;time&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: lynxwiler</title>
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		<dc:creator>lynxwiler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 00:02:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey TIM, your Italianate, Yellowstone and Polynesian-themed apartment buildings sound quite Disneyesque and remind me of Walt Disney World&#8217;s hotels. No offense to you for thinking it as you are correct, LA is the capitol and original purveyor of themed architecture. With Hollywood in our backyard, what exactly is real&nbsp;anyway?</p>
<p>I think we should leave themed architecture to Disney and the fabulous 1920s as as they do/did it best. Whenever we attempt such fantasy design in our city&#8217;s commercial and residential architecture today, it&#8217;s instantly-dated kitsch, poorly built at&nbsp;that. </p>
<p>Contemporary architects should, of course, feel free to mine the past or some distant land for inspiration and then bring that inspiration to the modern drafting table as we must learn from the past. Yet what I see from Palmer&#8217;s fake-Mediterranean apartments is not inspired at all — they&#8217;re just&nbsp;cartoonish.</p>
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		<title>By: bc</title>
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		<dc:creator>bc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 23:06:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What power does the CRA have once it&#039;s built?  Do you really think they are going to monitor and enforce the retail conditions.  I doubt it.  Palmer is the clear winner here in my opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What power does the CRA have once it&#8217;s built?  Do you really think they are going to monitor and enforce the retail conditions.  I doubt it.  Palmer is the clear winner here in my&nbsp;opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 01:25:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I LOVED the italian theme of the Medici.  If only one of the others would have been, maybe, polynesian themed, and another maybe Yellowstone-themed.  That would have been great -- and very L.A. (That is -- retro L.A., when the Brown Derby still was a derby and Clifton&#039;s Cafeteria  had its Polynesian themed outpost.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I LOVED the italian theme of the Medici.  If only one of the others would have been, maybe, polynesian themed, and another maybe Yellowstone-themed.  That would have been great &#8212; and very L.A. (That is &#8212; retro L.A., when the Brown Derby still was a derby and Clifton&#8217;s Cafeteria  had its Polynesian themed&nbsp;outpost.)</p>
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		<title>By: loveandhatela</title>
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		<dc:creator>loveandhatela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Im glad the CRA is more proactive this time.  The whole italian theme of  these buildings is quite nasty.
It  should be required that developers need to assimilate, compliment and add to the surrounding environment. Not stand out like a mirage in the desert ..lol
We should send Mr. Palmer a message  by sending him bottles of BBQ sauce, as the Jericho fans sent peanuts to CBS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Im glad the CRA is more proactive this time.  The whole italian theme of  these buildings is quite nasty.<br />
It  should be required that developers need to assimilate, compliment and add to the surrounding environment. Not stand out like a mirage in the desert ..lol<br />
We should send Mr. Palmer a message  by sending him bottles of BBQ sauce, as the Jericho fans sent peanuts to&nbsp;CBS.</p>
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		<title>By: Langley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Langley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 22:48:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wasn&#039;t the BBQ King supposed to move into one of the stalls of commercial space in Orsini II, allowing the developer to then clear out the land for Orsini III? 

The CRA should ask the builder &quot;why do you keep Xeroxing your apartment buildings all over downtown? Can&#039;t you afford more than one architect, or more than one set of blueprints from him?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wasn&#8217;t the BBQ King supposed to move into one of the stalls of commercial space in Orsini II, allowing the developer to then clear out the land for Orsini&nbsp;III? </p>
<p>The CRA should ask the builder &#8220;why do you keep Xeroxing your apartment buildings all over downtown? Can&#8217;t you afford more than one architect, or more than one set of blueprints from&nbsp;him?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Joey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 22:44:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope these new initiatives amount to something. I think the Orsini, Medici...etc. projects are banal and illogical. A couple of years ago as I was driving an Italian architect who was visiting LA he was perplexed and laughingly asked &quot;Why does LA want to build complexes that mimic a psuedo-Italianate design that is not regional with names like Medici?&quot; He though it was ridiculous and I had to agree.

Truthfully, I&#039;d rather keep that side of Cesar Chavez just the way it is including the King BBQ joint.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope these new initiatives amount to something. I think the Orsini, Medici&#8230;etc. projects are banal and illogical. A couple of years ago as I was driving an Italian architect who was visiting LA he was perplexed and laughingly asked &#8220;Why does LA want to build complexes that mimic a psuedo-Italianate design that is not regional with names like Medici?&#8221; He though it was ridiculous and I had to&nbsp;agree.</p>
<p>Truthfully, I&#8217;d rather keep that side of Cesar Chavez just the way it is including the King BBQ&nbsp;joint.</p>
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