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	<description>Downtown Los Angeles Blog: Restaurants, Retail, Culture, Events, Lofts, News.  Rich Alossi, Author</description>
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		<title>By: Loleka</title>
		<link>http://www.angelenic.com/751/inside-american-apparel-4000-downtown-employees-and-counting/comment-page-1/#comment-30738</link>
		<dc:creator>Loleka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 17:06:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hats off to all of you, Rich great article! I spent 20 min, laughing just reading the comments, so Mahalo to the posters too.
I have never heard of the company or their supposedly wicked CEO, being out in Hawaii paradise, not surprised. 
Again, to all, thanks for the interesting info!
btw my thumbs up will most likely result in even more fun reading! Enjoy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hats off to all of you, Rich great article! I spent 20 min, laughing just reading the comments, so Mahalo to the posters too.<br />
I have never heard of the company or their supposedly wicked CEO, being out in Hawaii paradise, not surprised.<br />
Again, to all, thanks for the interesting info!<br />
btw my thumbs up will most likely result in even more fun reading!&nbsp;Enjoy!</p>
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		<title>By: Belinda Waters</title>
		<link>http://www.angelenic.com/751/inside-american-apparel-4000-downtown-employees-and-counting/comment-page-1/#comment-22283</link>
		<dc:creator>Belinda Waters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 23:58:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow.. this is interesting thread. I own a wholesale manufacturing company and what many people do not realize is that there are a lot of factories in other less developed countries that do not provide any types of benefits for their employees or even fair wages. Why do you think it is cheaper to bring in goods from less developed countries?
 
I&#039;m not a fan of AA product, but definitely applaud him for manufacturing in the US and generating jobs for the community which further supports other local businesses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow.. this is interesting thread. I own a wholesale manufacturing company and what many people do not realize is that there are a lot of factories in other less developed countries that do not provide any types of benefits for their employees or even fair wages. Why do you think it is cheaper to bring in goods from less developed&nbsp;countries?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not a fan of AA product, but definitely applaud him for manufacturing in the US and generating jobs for the community which further supports other local&nbsp;businesses.</p>
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		<title>By: Bert Green</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bert Green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 03:17:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The 58 bus that ran along Alameda for many years was cancelled a year or 2 ago for lack of ridership. Nobody rode it. The 7th Street buses connect that area to the rest of downtown, to Metro Rail, and to the Eastside, which makes them more useful to workers than the 58.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The 58 bus that ran along Alameda for many years was cancelled a year or 2 ago for lack of ridership. Nobody rode it. The 7th Street buses connect that area to the rest of downtown, to Metro Rail, and to the Eastside, which makes them more useful to workers than the&nbsp;58.</p>
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		<title>By: BRS</title>
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		<dc:creator>BRS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 22:39:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Education is not proven by posting on a blog.  Those who stand for nothing will fall for anything... Also FYI, I am myself an immigrant to this country, just not from mexico, and I did it in the legal fashion, strange concept huh?...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Education is not proven by posting on a blog.  Those who stand for nothing will fall for anything&#8230; Also FYI, I am myself an immigrant to this country, just not from mexico, and I did it in the legal fashion, strange concept&nbsp;huh?&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ap</title>
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		<dc:creator>ap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 06:23:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ignorant, uneducated, etc.  This type can&#039;t even string one sentence together.  One sentence...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ignorant, uneducated, etc.  This type can&#8217;t even string one sentence together.  One&nbsp;sentence&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: M</title>
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		<dc:creator>M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 23:48:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or should I say &quot;ignorant&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or should I say&nbsp;&#8220;ignorant&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: BRS</title>
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		<dc:creator>BRS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 18:17:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I meant to say private property. I am dyslexic at times. or shall I say dyscixe...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I meant to say private property. I am dyslexic at times. or shall I say&nbsp;dyscixe&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: BRS</title>
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		<dc:creator>BRS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 17:14:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is at the corner of 7th and Alameda, and their are plenty of buses running on 7th, not sure if you think the LA transit buses should drive on to a public property so the tax payers of LA can pay for shuttling his illegals around. They can walk the 75 feet to 7th street. Or the 1/2 mile to the greyhound station and grab a bus to TJ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is at the corner of 7th and Alameda, and their are plenty of buses running on 7th, not sure if you think the LA transit buses should drive on to a public property so the tax payers of LA can pay for shuttling his illegals around. They can walk the 75 feet to 7th street. Or the 1/2 mile to the greyhound station and grab a bus to&nbsp;TJ&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: BRS</title>
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		<dc:creator>BRS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 17:10:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To all you who think it is hearsay, there are plenty of articles online about him and his practices. I have met him and do know people who know him well, I have been told some really crazy things about him. Here is some written proof. To all of you who think he is doing such a great thing, it is all a cover up to hide the fact he is using illegal aliens too do his slave labor. He doesn&#039;t pay a Los Angeles prevailing wage either, a Provost Utah one maybe. He likes to control people and illegal aliens are really easy to control, especially if you give them free phone calls and massages....

&quot;Lawsuit? No biggie, right? Not exactly. It doesn&#039;t help Charney&#039;s case that his stores are papered with Penthouse and Oui magazine snapshots and that he happily admits to having sex with his employees. Nor does it help that he brags about his penchant for masturbating in front of women. So much so, that he masturbated in front of reporter Claudine Ko while she interviewed him for Jane magazine. Ko reports in Jane:

&quot;&#039;Can I?&#039; he says adjusting himself in his chair. And thus begins another compulsive episode of what Dov likes to call &quot;self-pleasure,&quot; during which we casually carry on our interview, discussing things like business models, hiring practices and the stupidity of focus groups. &#039;Masturbation in front of women is underrated,&#039; Dov explains to me later over the phone. &#039;It&#039;s much easier on the woman. She gets to watch, it&#039;s a sensual experience that doesn&#039;t involve a man violating a woman, yet once the man has his release, it&#039;s over and you can talk to the guy.&#039; Soon enough he loosens his Pierre Cardin belt. &#039;Are you going to do it again?&#039; I ask.&quot;

In Ko&#039;s article, she asserts that she witnessed Charney jerk off more than eight times in one month. However, according to jewlicious.com, Ko added later &quot;Whenever I see a picture of Dov, I can&#039;t help but smile and think fondly of him. That reporting experience was fun, engaging, stimulating and interesting. Dov Charney is a mad man and I like that.&quot; If you didn&#039;t read the Jane article, perhaps you saw Charney&#039;s exposed penis giving Butt (a radical counter-culture fag-mag) readers the full Monty in a recent issue. If you missed that, perhaps you caught the bare-bottomed ad of him in Vice wearing nothing but a T-shirt that said &quot;Legalize L.A.&quot; Or maybe you read Mireya Navarro&#039;s thoughtful New York Times account in a lengthy July 10, 2005 article: &quot;[One of the Plaintiffs] said [Charney] once called her into his office with a co-worker and gave them both vibrators, saying, &#039;It&#039;s great during sex.&#039;&quot; Indeed, stunts like this, whether obnoxious or liberated, reveal Charney&#039;s wild side à la Paris Hilton, and give needed exposure to the company. But they may ultimately alienate the store&#039;s consumer base by… ahem… overexposing the company.&quot;

source:
http://blacktable.com/graham050720.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To all you who think it is hearsay, there are plenty of articles online about him and his practices. I have met him and do know people who know him well, I have been told some really crazy things about him. Here is some written proof. To all of you who think he is doing such a great thing, it is all a cover up to hide the fact he is using illegal aliens too do his slave labor. He doesn&#8217;t pay a Los Angeles prevailing wage either, a Provost Utah one maybe. He likes to control people and illegal aliens are really easy to control, especially if you give them free phone calls and&nbsp;massages&#8230;.</p>
<p>&#8220;Lawsuit? No biggie, right? Not exactly. It doesn&#8217;t help Charney&#8217;s case that his stores are papered with Penthouse and Oui magazine snapshots and that he happily admits to having sex with his employees. Nor does it help that he brags about his penchant for masturbating in front of women. So much so, that he masturbated in front of reporter Claudine Ko while she interviewed him for Jane magazine. Ko reports in&nbsp;Jane:</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8216;Can I?&#8217; he says adjusting himself in his chair. And thus begins another compulsive episode of what Dov likes to call &#8220;self-pleasure,&#8221; during which we casually carry on our interview, discussing things like business models, hiring practices and the stupidity of focus groups. &#8216;Masturbation in front of women is underrated,&#8217; Dov explains to me later over the phone. &#8216;It&#8217;s much easier on the woman. She gets to watch, it&#8217;s a sensual experience that doesn&#8217;t involve a man violating a woman, yet once the man has his release, it&#8217;s over and you can talk to the guy.&#8217; Soon enough he loosens his Pierre Cardin belt. &#8216;Are you going to do it again?&#8217; I&nbsp;ask.&#8221;</p>
<p>In Ko&#8217;s article, she asserts that she witnessed Charney jerk off more than eight times in one month. However, according to jewlicious.com, Ko added later &#8220;Whenever I see a picture of Dov, I can&#8217;t help but smile and think fondly of him. That reporting experience was fun, engaging, stimulating and interesting. Dov Charney is a mad man and I like that.&#8221; If you didn&#8217;t read the Jane article, perhaps you saw Charney&#8217;s exposed penis giving Butt (a radical counter-culture fag-mag) readers the full Monty in a recent issue. If you missed that, perhaps you caught the bare-bottomed ad of him in Vice wearing nothing but a T-shirt that said &#8220;Legalize L.A.&#8221; Or maybe you read Mireya Navarro&#8217;s thoughtful New York Times account in a lengthy July 10, 2005 article: &#8220;[One of the Plaintiffs] said [Charney] once called her into his office with a co-worker and gave them both vibrators, saying, &#8216;It&#8217;s great during sex.&#8217;&#8221; Indeed, stunts like this, whether obnoxious or liberated, reveal Charney&#8217;s wild side à la Paris Hilton, and give needed exposure to the company. But they may ultimately alienate the store&#8217;s consumer base by… ahem… overexposing the&nbsp;company.&#8221;</p>
<p>source:<br />&nbsp;<a href="http://blacktable.com/graham050720.htm" rel="nofollow">http://blacktable.com/graham050720.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 23:40:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fred, this may actually be of concern to you, but not necessarily to anybody else.

There is no bus service down Alameda in front of the factory, which seems strange given the factory does employ thousands of individuals who, based on stereotypes, are likely to embrace (or need) alternative modes of transportation. Their bike share program does make the trip between factory and the nearest bus stop (on 7th) more palatable, I just think its strange there is no regular bus service to such a large employer with so many employees potentially willing to use transit service on a regular basis.

As a side note, discussion of how sexist and/or morally reprehensible the owner may be is a huge non-sequitur. Transit service is though too, so what do I care?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fred, this may actually be of concern to you, but not necessarily to anybody&nbsp;else.</p>
<p>There is no bus service down Alameda in front of the factory, which seems strange given the factory does employ thousands of individuals who, based on stereotypes, are likely to embrace (or need) alternative modes of transportation. Their bike share program does make the trip between factory and the nearest bus stop (on 7th) more palatable, I just think its strange there is no regular bus service to such a large employer with so many employees potentially willing to use transit service on a regular&nbsp;basis.</p>
<p>As a side note, discussion of how sexist and/or morally reprehensible the owner may be is a huge non-sequitur. Transit service is though too, so what do I&nbsp;care?</p>
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